Friday, May 23, 2008

Jack Layton: Carbon tax would hurt the poor

Suzuki dumbfounded by Layton's environmental position












NDP leader Jack Layton was at a fundraiser for an Ottawa homeless shelter yesterday where he made a few interesting comments about poverty and how carbon taxes would be harmful to the poor:
"Those advocating a carbon tax suggest that by making the cost of certain things more expensive people will make different choices, but Canada is a cold place and heating your home really isn't a choice," Mr. Layton said. "We shouldn't punish people, and that's what a carbon tax does."
[Layton's] remarks yesterday were preceded by a wake of left-wing discontent where environmentalist David Suzuki told CTV's Question Period this past Sunday that he was "shocked" by the NDP's opposition to the possible implementation of a carbon tax:
"I thought that they had a very progressive environmental outlook," Mr. Suzuki said. "To oppose [the carbon tax plan], it's just nonsense. It's certainly the way we've got to go."
The way we've got to go? Well, it would seem that only Stephane Dion (and a few other environmental alarmist) would like to see this tax rammed through parliament and become reality. Not exactly an overwhelming majority in the house, is it Mr. Suzuki? But wait.

With all that being said, it would still seem that one individual , or party, on the home front here is mulling over whether or not to implement a similar regressive "carbon tax" at the provincial level.

And with global economic uncertainty at an all-time high and provincial income taxes through the roof, just why does our finance minister believe this is a good time to sneak in a permanent new tax on gas, electricity and everything else that NBers buy. And to think, I thought they were supposed to be looking into ways to make our tax system more competitive? Clearly, if Dion and Boudreau get their way, it will mean that NBers will be "double taxed" on fuel and electricity consumption. How's that for competitive? Sucks pretty bad, huh TJ?

I guess your party has absolutely no regard for middle to lower income earners who will not only be gouged by such a tax, but in some cases, be without electricity or heat in the dead of winter.

Not to mention, as in BC and with Elizabeth May, with a carbon tax always comes the promise of it being revenue neutral. We all know that, in the end, this never ends up being the case.

Update: No mention of the 12 cents per litre tax on gasoline which her proposal would include (see the above link), however, Ms. May did continue to tout the carbon tax on CTV's Question Period as "revenue neutral, or as she calls it now, a "tax shift". See 1 minute mark here.

Related: Carbon taxes have little impact on environment: think tank, Suzuki slams NDP, Tories, backs Dion's carbon tax, Harper slams Liberal carbon tax as foolish, Disloyal Grits hurt their own chances, MP warns, Screwing up Canada #2, Suzuki shocked by Layton.

10 Comments:

At May 23, 2008, 2:20:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

NBers and taxes...you can't buy a break.

 
At May 23, 2008, 2:43:00 PM , Blogger Kit said...

Now thats the road to self-sufficiency... Tax the crap out of everything...

How high do you go before it actually changes behaviour? I've heard these carbon tax proponents say the magic number is gas prices at around a 1.50$ , but the UK experience says differently... at almost 2.50$ a litre there are still twice as many cars on the road and everyone drives everywhere. And they actually have a functioning alternative with buses and a rail network that hasn't been converted to walking trails...
With no alternative but to drive in this country, how is this going work? Its a money grab. Its a tax grab. No other way to see it.

 
At May 23, 2008, 3:00:00 PM , Blogger NB taxpayer said...

bill: Ack. Ack. Ack.

kit: you raise a great point. I remember how high insurance rates effected ppls choices regarding insuring another car or truck. The same is happening with high gas prices. I had the opportunity to drive through rural NB (Miramichi, Hopewell Cape, Petitcodiac, Burton, Port Elgin, et.) for the last three years. And I have to tell you, I've never seen so many "for sale" signs on cars, trucks and boats.

This is one case where the signs were there a number of years ago, but North Americans (mostly governments) failed to act. There's no reason that our region couldn't have weaned itself off the dependency of oil. This whole crisis is the result of poor leadership. Plain and simple.

Let's just hope that these possible tax policies don'tt result in another New Brunswicker freezing to death after the electricity gets cut.

 
At May 23, 2008, 3:49:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard musing in BC that a carbon tax will be entirely revenue neutral. What a joke. When politicians promise that every dollar raised will be returned to the people in the form of lower taxes, it usually means you're getting gouged.

 
At May 24, 2008, 9:38:00 PM , Blogger Iain G. Foulds said...

... NBT...this is a good post.
... I guess that Mr. Layton, knowing that he is in a no-win situation- recognising that the Conservatives have assumed the Liberal position, and the Liberals has assumed the NDP position- finds himself in the rare political position of just being able to be honest about issues.
... At least Mr. Layton is able to face himself in the mirror in the morning- unlike Mr. Harper and Mr. Dion.

 
At May 25, 2008, 12:58:00 PM , Blogger nbt said...

I guess that Mr. Layton, knowing that he is in a no-win situation- recognising that the Conservatives have assumed the Liberal position, and the Liberals has assumed the NDP position- finds himself in the rare political position of just being able to be honest about issues.

A good point, which is where Layton always wanted to be...the Official Opposition fighting another corrupt and unaccountable liberal style government. Too bad it's coming in a blue package.

 
At May 25, 2008, 1:10:00 PM , Blogger nbt said...

Opps, sorry anon. I almost forgot you. Just so you know, your comments regarding a "revenue neutral" tax inspired me to dig up an old post regarding Green party leader Elizabeth May's, and her carbon tax proposal.

Just so happens she was defending it again on CTV's Question Period, this time as a "tax shift":

See one minute mark.

 
At May 26, 2008, 1:23:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carbon Tax is simply stupid and I have to go with Layton on this. It would only hurt those of us who can barely afford the taxes now. And David Suzuki does not represent the middle class and does not speak for us he is wealthy and therefor carbon taxes would not really hurt his pocketbook.

 
At May 30, 2008, 4:45:00 PM , Blogger EternaLee said...

Another 12 cents per litre on gasoline?! Elizabeth, may it never be.

 
At May 30, 2008, 4:53:00 PM , Blogger NB taxpayer said...

I second that Lee!!

 

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